tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-828488812725731323.post1981379846257550863..comments2024-03-17T16:01:04.762-05:00Comments on In Defense of Joseph: A Summary of Why I Believe Joseph was not a PolygamistJSDefenderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11841376815958094645noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-828488812725731323.post-86142675904640489552023-05-13T19:50:26.347-05:002023-05-13T19:50:26.347-05:00i missed your reply to me. Have you read William C...i missed your reply to me. Have you read William Clayton's Nauvoo Journals? The document associates Joseph with polygamy at Nauvoo, It associates him with Celestial and eternal marriage. It confirms William Clayton recorded the July 12th 1843 revelation. It confirms Joseph Smith Jr. married to women besides Emma. I bought a copy of the documents in ebook form from Kindle. Have you read Joseph Smith 3rds interview with Melissa Lott Willis? She showed him a family Bible. Her father recorded he married Melissa to his father in 1843. Joseph doubted his father ever had a secret or discreet relationship with her. He felt his father was only married to plural wives for the eternity. He doubted marital rights in the flesh went with his fathers plural marriages. The Restoration Bookstore sells Joseph Smith 3rds Memoirs with his experience with Melissa when he interviewed her. I am on the Stop Hating on Joseph Smith Jr. on Facebook as a regular participant. Make a friendship request and I will confirm it. My testimony is Joseph Smith Jr. was a true prophet. I doubt he had marital relations with 33 or more plural wives. He had no children by any of the plural wives. If such children existed their names have been lost to history. I think the only way for him to practice it was to have chosen to be celibate. I would compare a celibate polygamist to a celibate homosexual. I only know of some claims of sex in his plural marriages. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-828488812725731323.post-81299978496023813002023-05-04T13:48:58.694-05:002023-05-04T13:48:58.694-05:00Hi thankks for sharing thisHi thankks for sharing thisTofu Accessorieshttps://www.tofuideas.com/products/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-828488812725731323.post-35522539470602308032017-06-06T00:14:42.751-05:002017-06-06T00:14:42.751-05:00Hi Robert—
You make a lot of allegations and concl...Hi Robert—<br />You make a lot of allegations and conclusions. What are your sources? Please quote them.<br />Thanks for your comment.<br />JSDefenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11841376815958094645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-828488812725731323.post-23309295057163927742017-06-02T12:58:09.778-05:002017-06-02T12:58:09.778-05:00James Whitehead in the Temple Lot Suite claimed he...James Whitehead in the Temple Lot Suite claimed he had claimed he saw a pre-altered copy of the July 12, 1843 revelation at Winter Quarters. Although his claim that it was altered cannot be proven the denial of the Expositor allegations suggested it had to do with ancient polygamy and I feel polygamy in the eternity via eternal marriage. I feel Joseph Smith 3rd felt James Whitehead was right about some of the 1852 published version forged. Yet by admitting his father had been sealed to Melissa Willis as an eternal husband agreed with the partially authentic published version theory. Bro. Hewitt are used as an example of an Elder under apostasy charges for teaching speculations about the making of Gods, devils and angels if I remember the content right. Such ideas are attributed to Joseph Smith Jr. in the polygamy revelation and the King Follet sermon. Van Hale responded to RLDS Apostle Russel F. Ralstons concerns about the sermon in his Fundamental Differences book. Richard and Pamela Price cite William Marks dodge to his statements that Joseph Smith Jr, was deceived by church leaders and not about polygamy being true doctrine. And added to even a partially polygamy document there are Nauvoo era documents that implicate his father in marriage speculations at Nauvoo.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06787559234115705188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-828488812725731323.post-73025688147485071492013-08-17T19:32:28.553-05:002013-08-17T19:32:28.553-05:00Great summary! Great summary! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-828488812725731323.post-30030207804175136962010-11-27T00:24:58.600-06:002010-11-27T00:24:58.600-06:00Talk about 'in denial'.Talk about 'in denial'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-828488812725731323.post-63637198669747137262010-07-22T11:32:16.339-05:002010-07-22T11:32:16.339-05:00I found this blog through that same comment. It r...I found this blog through that same comment. It really takes a lot of guts and effort to do something like this and I'm surprised there haven't been more inflammatory/trolling comments in a lot of these posts (not that I'm wishing it on you).<br /><br />I recently commented on an article related to "What can a married couple do if they have disagreements on following the Word of Wisdom?" From reading it, it was painfully obvious that the people involved did not have an understanding of the Word of Wisdom as it's outlined in Section 89. Thus my comments were along the along the lines of, "To first be able to know if they agree/disagree, they first need to know what they're disagreeing on," and outlined portions of the WoW that are not in the Doctrine and Covenants but have become instituted policies of the Utah LDS church not revealed through revelation. The first reply was, "This has got to be the fastest incident of thread-jacking on record," and saw nothing beyond that other than the normal attempts to justify turning the WoW from a principle with promise into part of the Law of Moses.<br /><br />It's also quite ironic that the most miserable place to be Utah LDS is Utah itself. Don't believe me? Look at the rates of depression and crushing debt in the state and remember that it's still 70% Utah LDS.Dave P.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-828488812725731323.post-1501553559391000542010-07-21T17:00:03.386-05:002010-07-21T17:00:03.386-05:00I just saw your comment on my blog, Pure Mormonism...I just saw your comment on my blog, Pure Mormonism". Thanks very much for telling me of the existence of your blog here. It looks like it will be a valuable resource for me.<br /><br />Very glad to see some of the things you're writing about!Alan Rock Watermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04971243364867111868noreply@blogger.com